Official WWE KBC Fantasy League Season 12 Thread
Group 1

tehgiftofgab - AJ Styles, Andrade "Cien" Almas, Big Show, No Way Jose, Hideo Itami, The Revival, Asuka, Bludgeon Brothers
Opitiplex - Seth Rollins, Daniel Bryan, Jeff Hardy, Bobby Lashley, Mike Kannelis, Lucha House Party, Charlotte
Peezy - Braun Strowman, Rey Mysterio, Randy Orton, Heath Slater, Cedric Alexander, New Day, Ember Moon
Fro - Finn Balor, Miz, Dean Ambrose, Rusev, Mustafa Ali, The Bar, Alexa Bliss
Chris - Samoa Joe, Drew McIntyre, Elias, Dolph Ziggler, Buddy Murphy, Authors of Pain, Becky Lynch
L - Shinsuke Nakamura, Baron Corbin, Mojo Rawley, Bray Wyatt, Lio Rush, B Team, Ronda Rousey

Group 1 Standings as of 12-18-2018

1. Opitiplex - 1589
2. Peezy - 1534
3. Chris - 1424
4. Fro - 1417
5. L - 1281
6. tehgiftofgab - 1103

Group 1 Waiver List


Group 2

CAGE - AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, Dean Ambrose, Andrade "Cien" Almas, Kalisto, New Day, Alexa Bliss
Rob - Shinsuke Nakamura, Daniel Bryan, Drew McIntyre, Bray Wyatt, Buddy Murphy, Authors of Pain, Becky Lynch
Reggie - Elias, Bobby Lashley, Baron Corbin, Braun Strowman, Cedric Alexander, Usos, Asuka,
Obsidian - Seth Rollins, Miz, Dolph Ziggler, Randy Orton, Drew Gulak, The Bar, Charlotte, Kevin Owens
Zack T - Apollo Crews, Finn Balor, Lars Sullivan, Rey Mysterio, Hideo Itami, The Revival, Ronda Rousey, Roman Reigns

Group 2 Standings as of 12-18-2018

1. Obsidian - 1641
2. Zack T - 1515
3. Rob - 1485
4. Reggie - 1476
5. CAGE - 1318

Group 2 Waiver List

Zack T

The Rules:

Each participant will pick 4 Men, 1 Cruiserweight, 1 Tag Team, and 1 Woman.

Appearance on regular weekly TV - 3 Points

Have a match on regular weekly TV - 2 Points

Victory on regular weekly TV decisively - 5 Points

Victory on regular weekly TV un-decisively - 2 Points

Appearance on PPV - 5 Points

Have a match on PPV - 5 Points

Victory on PPV decisively - 10 points

Victory on PPV un-decisively - 5 Points

Win WWE/Universal Title- 30 Points

Win any other Title - 20 Points

Defend WWE/Universal Title - 20 Points

Defend any other Title - 10 Points

Win Royal Rumble or Money In The Bank Match - 20 Points

Eliminate someone in the Royal Rumble (or be a part of a group eliminating someone) - 1 Point per elimination

Win Elimination Chamber Match - 20 Points

Win Andre The Giant Memorial Battle Royal or Women's WrestleMania Battle Royal Match - 20 Points

Sole Survivor in a Survivor Tag Match - 20 Points

Member of winning team in a Survivor Tag Match - 10 Points

Cash In Money In The Bank contract successfully - 10 Points

Win a 4 person-or-more non-Elimination Chamber/Money In The Bank match - 10 Points

Win the King Of The Ring Tournament - 10 Points

Win a match at Wrestlemania or Summerslam - 10 Points

Here's my definitions of Decisive, Un-Decisive, and Appearances.

Decisive - Pinfall, Submission, Referee stops the match, restarts the match, or meeting the special stipulation required to win the match (I.E. climbing the ladder, escaping the cage, etc...)

Undecisive - DQ, Count Out, Decision Reversal (without a match restart), Unfair stipulation being added right before a match or mid-match

Appearance - An appearance will be anything that can be interpreted as being a real part of the show. This includes matches, interviews, backstage segments in which the Superstar is actively part of (not just background filler), guest referee, guest commentating, interfering in a match, and accompanying someone to a match. A recorded segment with a pick counts as long as it is being originally shown on the event, meaning a replay of a promo from last week would not get you Appearance points, but a new vignette by the Shield for example would. You will not get Appearance points if you choose someone who's part of a regular tag team as a singles wrestler, and they end up wrestling as part of their normal tag team. (Example - If you choose Fandango, you only get Appearance points when he shows up in a Singles match or a randomly thrown together tag match or specialty matches. NOT when he is in a Fashion Police tag match) This also works in reverse, so if you pick a Tag Team and both members show up during the event BUT they show up separately, you won't get appearance credit for the team. They have to show up together. Anything on the WWE App does NOT count as an Appearance. This means no Raw Pre-Show, Post-Show, or little snippets they show during Raw will count as Appearances. Pay Per View POST-SHOWS do not count either. However, the pre-show does due to it including a match that is advertised for the event.

For points, I will be counting Appearances and Victories on weekly TV separately from Pay Per View, meaning you can get double points on PPV weeks if your chosen superstars make appearances on a weekly TV show, and then also the PPV. Also, you only get 1 Victory from a weekly TV show, even if it's an un-decisive victory. The first victory your pick gets in a week is the one that you get points for. However, if you get multiple victories on any 1 show, I will count multiple victories due to the rarity of such a situation. A Gauntlet match does NOT count as multiple matches. If there is a match where one of your picks is being represented by someone else in a match, you won't get points for that match.

For title wins, the points are bonus. For example, if your Superstar wins the Intercontinental Title at the Royal Rumble, then you will get the normal 10 points for winning a PPV match, and another 20 points for winning the Intercontinental title. This bonus is in effect for any title retains as well.

For a title retain, I'll only award bonus points if there was an actual decision involved (Pin, Submission, or meeting the special stipulation to win the match). If your pick retains a title via DQ or Count Out, you will not receive points for the title retain.

Additionally, this bonus will apply for Money In The Bank cash-ins. If a superstar were to cash in Money In The Bank at a pay per view and win, they'd get points for a PPV victory, a WWE or Universal title win, and for cashing in MITB.

For Tag Teams, I will only grant you points for them when they appear in a tag match setting. It doesn't matter if it's 2 on 2, or if they're part of a larger team. So for example, if you pick Bullet Club, I will only give you point credit for them when they appear as a tag team or fight as a tag team, not in singles competition. I will grant appearance points for a tag team if 1 member of the tag team is in a singles match, but is accompanied to the match by their tag team partner (For example - If Karl Anderson has a 1 on 1 match and Luke Gallows accompanies him, I'd grant appearance points for Bullet Club. I would also grant points for Luke Gallows as an individual).

If you pick someone who's part of an actual Tag Team (like Karl Anderson) for a Superstar pick, you will only get credit for Matches and Victories if they are involved in non-team related matches. Meaning, tag matches where their actual tag team is not in it. So, for Karl Anderson, as long as it's not a specifically Bullet Club tag team match, you'd get credit. But if he's in a 2 on 2 tag match with Bullet Club, you would not get credit for that match victory (if he wins).

You may only pick current tag teams who have either just formed, or are in the tag team list below. A team is defined as any 2 or more people who are affiliated with each other and may tag together, whether or not they end up pursuing the tag team titles.

In the event that there are picks who are regularly teaming, but have not been chosen by anyone in their Tag Team slot, then they will receive credit for them as Singles instead. (For example, if the Hardyz are teaming together and no one has the Hardyz as their Tag Team pick, then whoever has Matt Hardy and/or Jeff Hardy as a Singles pick will still receive credit for them, even when they appear as a Tag Team).

Whenever there are Survivor Tag matches, or whenever a team randomly forms to face some big threat (Past examples, Team Hell No and Ryback vs Shield or Team WWE vs Nexus), then I will give credit for any tag team that is a part of the match and also credit for all wrestlers involved as single picks as well. This will also apply for stables (Teams that consist of 3 or more members) in Appearance points and Match points as well. (For example, if a Survivor Series tag match contains Usos and New Day, I would give credit for both tag teams and also individual credit for Jimmy, Jey, Kofi, Big E, and Xavier Woods)

One final note about tag teams - In the rare events that there is a fatal 4-way tag team match, you will not receive credit for any individual superstars in the match, unless no one has a particular team as their actual selected tag team.

You will be allowed to publicly post any desired Adds/Drops at any time during the week. However, the changes won't take effect until after regular weekly TV points have been accounted for, OR after the pay per view (if it's a pay per view week).

The Waiver list will start as reverse-order of the draft.

Each person above you on the Waiver list will have to say Pass to any potential addition you want to pick up to your Team. They have up to 24 hours to do so. If they don't post anything, they will automatically pass and the Waiver list will move on to the next person. Whenever you gain a new pick, you will be moved to the bottom of the Waiver List.

Picks will take effect on the following week after you've made your post. You are only allowed to initiate 1 Waiver Pick at a time, and must wait until it is completed or blocked before initiating a new waiver pick. Trades will take place immediately.

In the event of a legitimate retirement, release/quitting the company, or team disbanding/break-up, you will be given 1 free non-waiver affecting replacement choice for that affected superstar/woman/tag team. This only happens once per category (so once in the superstar category, once in the tag team category, and once in the women category).

Used free superstar replacement:

Used free tag replacement


Used free women's replacement

Each person has 1 "Reserve" slot that they may place any of their picks in, in the event that the pick has been injured and will be out of action for the foreseeable future. When a pick is placed in the Reserve slot, you may then use the Waiver system to fill the empty slot they left behind. While the pick is in the Reserve slot, you will not gain points for them until they return to active competition, but they do remain on your team. When they return to action, you will drop someone and put the Reserve pick back on your main team. This will take effect immediately. During the draft, you cannot draft directly to your waiver slot - you must wait until the first week that the league is live, and then initiate a waiver pick.

For example - Bobby Roode is on my team and suffers a concussion and is slated to be out of action for 2 months. I put him on the Reserve slot and use the Waiver system to pick up Elias instead. 2 months down the line, Bobby Roode returns. I am now forced to drop any of my Individual Picks (Elias or any other single competitor I have) to make room for the returning Bobby Roode. You have 24 hours to make that decision on who you will drop to make room for the returning superstar. I will get points that week for Roode, and no points for the pick I dropped to make room for him.

The season will be from the week after Money In The Bank through the last pay per view in December.

I used to randomize groups and draft order.

This is a Linear draft, meaning that once we reach the bottom person on each list, we go back to the top and work our way down again. We repeat that until everyone's made their picks. You have 48 hours after the person behind you in the draft makes their pick - if you don't make your pick in those 48 hours, I make one for you. If you miss a draft pick, then your next turn will only have 24 hours before you must make your pick or I make it for you. If you miss 2 picks in a row, I will place you on auto-draft until you speak up.

Roster Information:

Aiden English
AJ Styles (tehgiftofgab Group 1, CAGE Group 2)
Alexander Wolfe
Andrade "Cien" Almas (tehgiftofgab Group 1, CAGE Group 2)
Apollo Crews (Zack T Group 2)
Baron Corbin (L Group 1, Reggie Group 2)
Big E
Big Show (tehgiftofgab Group 1)
Bo Dallas
Bobby Lashley (Opitiplex Group 1, Reggie Group 2)
Bobby Roode (Fro Group 1)
Braun Strowman (Peezy Group 1, Reggie Group 2)
Bray Wyatt (L Group 1, Rob Group 2)
Brock Lesnar - Universal Champion
Chad Gable
Chris Jericho
Curt Hawkins
Curtis Axel
Daniel Bryan - WWE Champion (Opitiplex Group 1, Rob Group 2)
Dash Wilder
Dean Ambrose - Intercontinental Champion (Fro Group 1, CAGE Group 2)
Dolph Ziggler (Chris Group 1, Obsidian Group 2)
Drew McIntyre (Chris Group 1, Rob Group 2)
Elias (Chris Group 1, Reggie Group 2)
Eric Young
Erick Rowan
Finn Balor (Fro Group 1, Zack T Group 2)
Heath Slater (Peezy Group 1)
Jason Jordan
Jeff Hardy (Opitiplex Group 1)
Jey Uso
Jinder Mahal
Jimmy Uso
John Cena
Karl Anderson
Kevin Owens (Chris Group 1, Obsidian Group 2)
Killian Dane
Kofi Kingston
Kurt Angle
Lars Sullivan (Zack T Group 2)
Luke Harper
Luke Gallows
Matt Hardy
Miz (Fro Group 1, Obsidian Group 2)
Mojo Rawley (L Group 1)
No Way Jose (tehgiftofgab Group 1)
Randy Orton (Peezy Group 1, Obsidian Group 2)
Rey Mysterio (Peezy Group 1, Zack T Group 2)
Roman Reigns (Zack T Group 2)
Rusev (Fro Group 1, Reggie Group 2)
Sami Zayn
Samoa Joe (Chris Group 1, CAGE Group 2)
Scott Dawson
Seth Rollins (Opitiplex Group 1, Obsidian Group 2)
Shane McMahon
Shelton Benjamin
Shinsuke Nakamura - United States Champion (L Group 1, Rob Group 2)
Sin Cara
Titus O'Neil
Triple H
Tye Dillinger
Tyler Breeze
Xavier Woods
Zack Ryder

Akira Tozawa
Ariya Daivari
Buddy Murphy - Cruiserweight Champion (Chris Group 1, Rob Group 2)
Cedric Alexander (Peezy Group 1, Reggie Group 2)
Drake Maverick
Drew Gulak (Obsidian Group 2)
Jack Gallagher
Gran Metalik
Hideo Itami (tehgiftofgab Group 1, Zack T Group 2)
Lince Dorado
Lio Rush (L Group 1)
Mark Andrews
Mike Kanellis (Opitiplex Group 1)
Mustafa Ali (Fro Group 1)
Noam Dar
THE Brian Kendrick
Tony Nese

Authors of Pain (Chris Group 1, Rob Group 2)
B-Team (L Group 1)
Bludgeon Brothers (tehgiftofgab Group 1)
Bobby Roode & Chad Gable - Raw Tag Team Champions
Deleter Of Worlds
Hardy Boyz
Lucha House Party (Opitiplex Group 1)
New Day (Peezy Group 1, CAGE Group 2)
The Bar - Smackdown Tag Team Champions (Fro Group 1, Obsidian Group 2)
The Club
The Colons
The Revival (tehgiftofgab Group 1, Zack T Group 2)
Usos (Reggie Group 2)

Alexa Bliss (Fro Group 1, CAGE Group 2)
Alicia Fox
Asuka - Smackdown Women's Champion (tehgiftofgab Group 1, Reggie Group 2)
Becky Lynch (Chris Group 1, Rob Group 2)
Billie Kay
Brie Bella
Charlotte (Opitiplex Group 1, Obsidian Group 2)
Dana Brooke
Ember Moon (Peezy Group 1)
Liv Morgan
Mandy Rose
Maria Kanellis
Mickie James
Naomi (Rob Group 2)
Nia Jax (Chris Group 1)
Nicki Cross
Nikki Bella
Peyton Royce
Ronda Rousey - Raw Women's Champion (L Group 1, Zack T Group 2)
Ruby Riott
Sarah Logan
Sasha Banks
Sonya Deville
Stephanie McMahon
Zelina Vega

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At No. 3

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Fuck. Ruined by a run in.

Win the Day!

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Also, yes on the Cruiserweights.

Make a separate list of them in Purple sir!

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Agreed on the cruiserweights.
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Also I guess cruiserweights... but why not make it 4 superstars still? Does anyone even watch 201 live, now that I think about it I don’t even know who the champ is lol
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All in.....unlike CM Punk rite
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(06-06-2018, 06:08 PM)tehgiftofgab Wrote: Hi

Also I guess cruiserweights... but why not make it 4 superstars still? Does anyone even watch 201 live, now that I think about it I don’t even know who the champ is lol

I want to see it done both ways to see which way makes it better. Maybe have 1 group do 3 regular stars and 1 cruiserweight and then the other group do 4 stars and 1 cruiserweight. That way we can decide which style is more fun/competitive. It's already a lot for Zack to track. But why not make things more difficult for him?
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Only if I can be in the bracket of 4 superstars! *dibs!!!
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I can pull out the Cruiserweights and make a purple list for them. 4 Regular Stars, 1 Team, 1 Woman, 1 Cruiserweight sounds fun. Gives us an extra round of drafting anyway. We can give that a shot.
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I'm cool with 4 stars and 1 cruiserweight.

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Between the name change for the kbc champ and this news, I’m really digging this forum a little extra!
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I want in
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Cage is All in
I'll do it again.
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I'd like to exchange my flippy fgt for a second chicc. Thanks bro's!$
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Okie dokie smokie pokie artichokie little broskies

Drafting is open! Group 1 has 6, Group 2 has 5. Remember, there is a 7th round of drafting this season to account for the 1 Cruiserweight we all pick.

Let's get this done by next Monday before Raw! Yea!
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So AJ Styles is your #3 pick?
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Fucking CAGE already taking forever.


Win the Day!

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Seth Rollins
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Braun Strowman

Well I see where this is going. Zack, message me on FB when it becomes my turn.
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My boy!!

Roman!! Whoop X2!!
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(06-11-2018, 05:24 PM)Obsidian Wrote: Well I see where this is going. Zack, message me on FB when it becomes my turn.

CAGE is probably in some drugged out stupor and Reginald is looking for free meals. It might be a day or two before it gets to you.

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Ill go AJ for my first pick as well.
Fuck you.

Give me Nakamura.

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