Daniel Bryan to Return at SummerSlam?
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In Wed's Observer(S/O to Peez-rewinds are probably the reason I subscribed after decades of reading everyone else's copypasta), it was noted that tentatively the plan is for Daniel Bryan to return to a limited schedule at SummerSlam. Doctor Maroon feels much better about Daniel and while he isn't officially cleared it is now looking good.

Not to be a conspiracy theorist but man, I hope they aren't just doing this get him locked into another contract. Give him a match, make him feel good, then oh shit, you aren't cleared anymore.
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Don't like

On one hand, yes I miss him just as much as anyone in the ring but I don't want him to jeopardize what's left by chasing final glory.
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I'm completely under the impression that WWE hasn't changed their tune about his health and are only doing this to make sure ROH, NJPW, etc. can't capitalize on such a big opportunity.

If Daniel wins the Royal Rumble then I am changing my tune and going to WM.
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I have absolutely no problem with Bryan wrestling. He's not risking anything more than any other wrestler. The only reason WWF's doctor won't clear him is because a) WWE is in the middle of a class action concussion lawsuit so they're being overly cautious and b) because that doctor (Dr. Maroon) is the same doctor who was at the middle of the NFL concussion controversy and he's trying to protect his own reputation so he's also being overly cautious.

Bryan has been cleared by, like, 30 different concussion specialists outside of WWE. He's had the most extensive concussion testing any pro wrestler has ever had and has passed all of them with flying colors. If you subjected every other WWE wrestler to the same tests that Bryan has had, almost none of them would pass. Bryan's brain is no better or worse than anyone else wrestling in WWE right now. He just happened to fail WWE's test at the wrong time, with the wrong doctor. The guy is in the prime of his career. There's absolutely no reason he shouldn't be allowed to wrestle if he's willing to take the same risks that every other wrestler takes.

Bryan wants to do it. His wife is supportive of it. Every single concussion doctor he's seen has told him he's perfectly healthy. Only ONE doctor is preventing it from happening and he's only doing so because he's protecting himself and WWE, not out of concern for DBs health. Fuck that. Put him back in the ring already.




In other news, here's the exact Observer quote:

Quote:Sources close to the situation confirmed last week that nothing has changed regarding Bryan and WWE, and WWE told us on 12/4 that reports that he has been cleared are inaccurate.

Vince McMahon has made it clear to Bryan Danielson that the decision will come from Dr. Joseph Maroon. At this point, the angle they are doing with Shane McMahon is not meant to build to a match, at least not between the two of them, just like the situation last year with Miz never built to a match.

If he is cleared by Maroon, that would all change. There is talk of him wrestling at SummerSlam and working a limited schedule if he does get cleared. Danielson leaving would be huge for independent wrestling in the U.S., far bigger than anyone else (perhaps a C.M. Punk return would be but he’s shown no interest and the Young Bucks have tried to convince him to come). With Danielson, it’s not that it hurts WWE at all for him to wrestle elsewhere, but it will help whoever he works for and will lead to a stronger independent scene. How much stronger isn’t clear and won’t be until it happens. He’s pretty strong on returning to the ring in October, when his WWE contract expires, but also made it clear if he gets a negative test before he sets out to wrestle again, he will not wrestle.

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I'm really torn on it too. Like Bryan shouldn't hold the belt again, he can't be the guy on that schedule. And how many great matches are there for him in WWE we haven't seen? Nak, AJ, that's really it. So like I would kind of want to see dream matches like Naito or Okada.
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Again, why couldn't he? I don't even like the light schedule bullshit. Fuck that. If the best concussion specialists in the world have cleared him, send his ass back out on the road full time and let him pick up where he left off in 2014.
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Only let him do PPVs, one or two tv matches a month tops, and major market house shows. That would be roughly 50 matches a year. They could easily go for less too. If they give him two or three years of that, I think he will be fine. I seriously doubt HHH, Goldberg, Undertaker are that much different when it comes to how their brains have been effected by concussions. I know Angle has to be completely fucked and yet, he has had 2 PPV matches and one or more house show matches.
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I love Kurt Angle but he's a shell of a human inside his skull and is still wrestling. Same as you said for guys like HHH and Undertaker.

Basically anyone who has been wrestling for any length of time is going to have concussions. Ziggler notably had several, including a couple back to back that kept him out for months and he's still working every night. The Hardys, Cena, Goldust, AJ, Jericho, Orton....these are guys who have been wrestling for at least a decade, sometimes more, and have all had multiple concussions. Throw in all the indie darlings like Balor, Sami, Owens, Rollins, Ambrose, etc. who spent years getting their brains rocked for $20 a night before getting to WWE.

If you subjected any of those guys to all the same extensive tests that Bryan has had, I guarantee you some, if not most would probably show more brain issues than Bryan. But then they would have to force most of their roster to retire.



Anyone who still doubts Bryan being healthy needs to listen to the Edge & Christian podcast he was on a few months ago. He goes into extreme detail on all the testing he's had done, what the results were, what they mean, what he's been told by other doctors, etc.

He's also been very clear that if any of these doctors DID find something to be concerned about, he would never risk stepping foot in the ring again because of his daughter. But he knows he's healthy and all the doctors know he's healthy. WWE even knows he's healthy. But they're so concerned about the lawsuit situation that they've benched him anyway.
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Fucc it, book him as entrant 30, and face AJ at mania. I can wait for AJ vs Nak!
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#10
I'd rather see one final CM Punk run personally
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Well yeah, me too. Punk is in my all time top 3 favorite ever. But that shit ain't happenin'.
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I think if the money and timing is right it could. I didn't think Angle would be welcomed back with open arms after that falling out but it happened.
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WWE didn't fire Angle on his wedding day and then sue him.

Punk HATES that fucking company. He may return some day, in the distant future, but it ain't happening in the next couple of years.

I wouldn't be surprised if he makes an appearance at the Young Bucks/Cody Rhodes indie show this year though.
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He got his term papers on his wedding day (sounds like that was right around when the general 90 day process was up). Not sure about the lawsuit thing. Havent bothered to read up on it.

Anyway, there have been those whom they were on worse terms with when they parted ways. Not saying it will but I wouldnt say never.
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Punk will return but not with WWE.
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Thanks cage /thread
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Bryan, talking about the concussion stuff recently.

TL;DR - he's fine, wants to wrestle again, WWE won't let him, and if they don't clear him before his contract ends, he's leaving and going somewhere else that will let him.



Quote:Apparently, Bryan was cleared by the specialists at UCLA who WWE sent him to see; however, WWE is still not clearing the former world champion.

"I've worked with some of the best people in the country. I've been cleared by specialists at UCLA that I did not choose, right? WWE sent them to me because they're the best. A whole team of people who work with concussions on a daily basis and they said to me, 'you are fine to wrestle.' And we're also at this stage where all my brain EEGs, my MRIs, my neuropsychological tests [have been positive]."

Also during the interview, Bryan shared that Brie is very supportive of him wrestling again.

"So Brie, and you'd think that this would be the opposite, she's fully supportive of me wrestling again and one of the reasons why is she has been in some of these doctors meetings with the doctors that cleared me."

Bryan explained that when he was initially forced to retire, he accepted that he would not be able to perform in the squared circle any longer and it was not until he was around WWE again as SmackDown GM that his desire to wrestle again grew.

"I'm somebody that if they found something wrong with my brain, I don't want to wrestle because I'm okay with not wrestling. The hard part for me is having all these specialists that told me I'm cleared to wrestle and then I am not able to wrestle. That's the hard part, right, because it's still this passion. It was interesting because when I retired, I made peace with it, right?"

Bryan continued, "for a while, I was like, 'okay, it's going to be okay. Whatever.' But then, it gets to a point where you're like, 'wait a minute, not only can I do this, but I feel like [sighs] it almost feels like I'm doing a disservice to me and a disservice to other people who are going to be in my situation."

Bryan claimed that he has not been cleared by WWE because the company is trying to protect him and itself, though he wondered how many current WWE performers would be able perform as well as he has with respect to concussion testing.

"If you look at some of the people who perform now, and so, this is one of my things too. And so I also need to say this because it comes across as 'argh, WWE!', but that is not the case at all. WWE is trying to protect me, right? And they're also trying to protect their company, but I don't know how many people on the roster, just in total, if you had them do all the brain testing that I've done that their tests would be as good as mine."

Finally, Bryan divulged that he will not continue on in his role as SmackDown GM if he is not cleared to return to the ring by the time his current WWE deal expires. In such a turn of events, 'The World's Toughest Vegan' will seek out greener pastures for an in-ring return.

"If I get a bad test somewhere along the line, I won't wrestle. But I also, will probably, when my contract is up, I'd probably, if I'm still General Manager at that point, I'd probably step away from that part of it because just being around it, I love it a little too much and I need to transition. I need to get this focused because I'm very good at focusing on one thing, right? But then, I need to switch that laser focus to something else like saving the starving polar bears. So yeah, assuming everything continues as it has been going, when my [WWE] contract is up I would wrestle elsewhere if WWE would not clear me."





I'm torn. Part of me wants WWE to clear him (especially, say, before Wrestlemania) because that would be incredible.

On the other hand, the idea of seeing Bryan in NJPW against guys like Okada and Omega makes me #moist and I almost hope they don't clear him so I can see him go there.

Either way, it looks like we'll be seeing DBry back in a wrestling ring before 2018 ends one way or another.
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I don't really want him back in WWE. They wasted him. They are not 100% to blame but they make special rules for other people AND they could let their current "specialist" leave the WWE. It is clearly bureaucratic shit keeping him from wrestling.
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(12-22-2017, 05:23 PM)Peezy Wrote: Bryan, talking about the concussion stuff recently.

TL;DR - he's fine, wants to wrestle again, WWE won't let him, and if they don't clear him before his contract ends, he's leaving and going somewhere else that will let him.



Quote:Apparently, Bryan was cleared by the specialists at UCLA who WWE sent him to see; however, WWE is still not clearing the former world champion.

"I've worked with some of the best people in the country. I've been cleared by specialists at UCLA that I did not choose, right? WWE sent them to me because they're the best. A whole team of people who work with concussions on a daily basis and they said to me, 'you are fine to wrestle.' And we're also at this stage where all my brain EEGs, my MRIs, my neuropsychological tests [have been positive]."

Also during the interview, Bryan shared that Brie is very supportive of him wrestling again.

"So Brie, and you'd think that this would be the opposite, she's fully supportive of me wrestling again and one of the reasons why is she has been in some of these doctors meetings with the doctors that cleared me."

Bryan explained that when he was initially forced to retire, he accepted that he would not be able to perform in the squared circle any longer and it was not until he was around WWE again as SmackDown GM that his desire to wrestle again grew.

"I'm somebody that if they found something wrong with my brain, I don't want to wrestle because I'm okay with not wrestling. The hard part for me is having all these specialists that told me I'm cleared to wrestle and then I am not able to wrestle. That's the hard part, right, because it's still this passion. It was interesting because when I retired, I made peace with it, right?"

Bryan continued, "for a while, I was like, 'okay, it's going to be okay. Whatever.' But then, it gets to a point where you're like, 'wait a minute, not only can I do this, but I feel like [sighs] it almost feels like I'm doing a disservice to me and a disservice to other people who are going to be in my situation."

Bryan claimed that he has not been cleared by WWE because the company is trying to protect him and itself, though he wondered how many current WWE performers would be able perform as well as he has with respect to concussion testing.

"If you look at some of the people who perform now, and so, this is one of my things too. And so I also need to say this because it comes across as 'argh, WWE!', but that is not the case at all. WWE is trying to protect me, right? And they're also trying to protect their company, but I don't know how many people on the roster, just in total, if you had them do all the brain testing that I've done that their tests would be as good as mine."

Finally, Bryan divulged that he will not continue on in his role as SmackDown GM if he is not cleared to return to the ring by the time his current WWE deal expires. In such a turn of events, 'The World's Toughest Vegan' will seek out greener pastures for an in-ring return.

"If I get a bad test somewhere along the line, I won't wrestle. But I also, will probably, when my contract is up, I'd probably, if I'm still General Manager at that point, I'd probably step away from that part of it because just being around it, I love it a little too much and I need to transition. I need to get this focused because I'm very good at focusing on one thing, right? But then, I need to switch that laser focus to something else like saving the starving polar bears. So yeah, assuming everything continues as it has been going, when my [WWE] contract is up I would wrestle elsewhere if WWE would not clear me."




I'm torn. Part of me wants WWE to clear him (especially, say, before Wrestlemania) because that would be incredible.

On the other hand, the idea of seeing Bryan in NJPW against guys like Okada and Omega makes me #moist and I almost hope they don't clear him so I can see him go there.

Either way, it looks like we'll be seeing DBry back in a wrestling ring before 2018 ends one way or another.


I would have loved that, but Dave addressed it on WOR, saying NJPW would use him as a junior hw like Prince Devitt. Which, like, I'm not exactly clamoring for Bryan vs Marty Scurl.
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I know DBry is a little smaller than average, but as absolutely huge of a star as he is, I can't imagine NJPW would be foolish enough not to use him against top stars. DBry in NJPW is only money if he goes against guys like Omega, Naito, and Okada. They'd be absolutely stupid not to do those matches.
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If they can treat ZSJ as a heavyweight, Daniel will be just fine.
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I think if the Jericho/Omega match goes over well at Wrestle Kingdom that could impact his decision if cleared. Part of me thinks that could also be the ticket to make NJPW an attractive option for CM Punk if he does decide to return to the ring.
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NJPW with Bryan, CMPunk, Omega, Naito, Okada, maybe Jericho...fuck WWE. Just watch the NJPW quarterly big PPVs on repeat.
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Marty Scurll is the shit... That match would be great.
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Bryan did a criss cross spot with Zayn in the dark ME at SD, lol
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#26
That transition into the RKO was smooth af

I'm so hyped to see DBry back in the ring again
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Randy is one of the more underrated performers imo.
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#28
Orton is one of those guys who is so smooth and everything he does looks so effortless that it almost looks like he's not trying and makes him seem lazy at times. I think he's just that polished.
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This is going to sound stupid for obvious reasons but just take a moment and imagine the kind of matches Orton could have had on the indy scene.
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It'd be interesting, but more than anyone else, I can't picture him as anything but a WWE guy. He's just the mold of what a WWE wrestler is in every way.
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