Official NJPW/ROH/CMLL Thread
Nope, that was Battle Dome. They had a brief crossover with WCW in 2000.



[Image: jx9SHdi.png]

Reply


Bruce Lee’s daughter was the host.
Reply
https://mobile.twitter.com/jimsmallman/s...9907781632
[Image: 150723-EJ-aerial-madison-square-garden-1519-Edit.jpg]
2018
Reply
Kenny officially re-signed for another year.

Some notes on Okada from the Observer this week, expect him to reign for awhile.

Quote:Okada had always been planned to win. The feeling is that for the general public, Okada is the company’s superstar. When TV-Asahi did that national poll of the biggest wrestling star of all-time, Okada placed fourth, behind only Giant Baba, Antonio Inoki and Satoru Sayama, and one spot ahead of Rikidozan, since it’s a generation later. The idea is to try and make Okada into the face of the company at the level Inoki was but nobody has ever been since.

This record-setting title reign is the one that they want people to point to for a decade like a major sports domination period ala Michael Jordan in the NBA, where he had one fantastic match after another and held the title longer than anyone.

He already broke Tanahashi’s record for most time holding the IWGP title, but there are two records left. The first is most consecutive title defenses during one reign. Tanahashi’s January 4, 2011 to February 12, 2012 reign (where he lost to the “unknown” Okada at the end) saw him make 11 successful defenses. While Okada has held the title longer, they are limiting his title defenses with the idea that the less often they happen, the more important they become.

The win over Naito was No. 9. He will be next facing Seiya Sanada on 2/10 in Osaka for No. 10. My presumption is he won’t defend in Long Beach, although that is possible. More likely the record would be tied at Sakura Genesis on 4/1 at Sumo Hall in Tokyo. That would leave the record to be broken in May in Fukuoka, but it would be bigger to have that record broken at Dominion in June. There is the natural storyline of him tying the record and then facing Tanahashi to break the record, particularly since the two had a legendary rivalry. If that match takes place in May or June, the two won’t have met in a singles match since their 30:00 draw in the 2016 G-1 tournament, or nearly two years earlier.


Another interesting note-there are a lot of NJPW vs WWE matches coming up
Quote:There are several NJPW vs. WWE matches taking place this month in the U.K.

The biggest, on 1/17 in Milton Keynes, for IPW promotion, is a champion vs. champion match with U.K. champion Pete Dunne vs. IWGP jr. champion Will Ospreay.

The only other time a champion from WWE faced a champion from New Japan in a singles match was on May 3, 1993, at the Fukuoka Dome, when Hulk Hogan, who was WWF champion, beat Great Muta, who was IWGP champion. It’s been noted that neither Ospreay, who was born four days after this match, or Dunne, who was born November 9, 1993, were alive at the time this match took place.

At the time Hogan had a WWF contract that allowed him to work Japan. New Japan offered him $150,000 per match to work regularly. This was a different era because one of the most memorable things is Hogan, as WWF champion, doing an interview on New Japan’s television show basically saying that anyone can win the WWF title and the IWGP title was the most prestigious title in wrestling. Because Hogan’s contract with New Japan gave him control of his finishes, if they were to book Hogan vs. Great Muta, which they did for their first wrestling show ever at the Fukuoka Dome (it was part of a double main event with Antonio Inoki & Tatsumi Fujinami winning the actual main event over Riki Choshu & Genichiro Tenryu) , Hogan could pick his finish. So the WWF champion beat the IWGP champion clean in a singles match on a New Japan show.

The Hogan statement about the WWF title was reported by us, and then WWF was furious at Hogan, so he denied he ever said it, claiming it was made up, even though it actually appeared on the television show during an interview.

Hogan quit WWF as champion right about that time, not so much because New Japan offered him so much per match, but because he was unhappy WWF wanted him to drop the title to Bret Hart. So he instead chose to pick Yokozuna to lose to (he still had the mentality of Hart because too small, although he’ll deny it now, but he said it many times at the time) and got out of WWF a few months later.

While history portrays it as WCW and Eric Bischoff taking Hogan from WWF, he was completely gone from WWF for months before the talks even started and he was a big show contracted regular for New Japan as well as doing a syndicated television show, “Thunder in Paradise,” when Bischoff made him what at the time was thought to be a crazy offer including 25 percent of all company PPV revenue for every show he was on. As it turned out, Hogan raised PPV numbers so much that from 1994 to 1998 he was more than worth what he was earning, although after 1998 that was no longer the case.

Hogan was also actually WWF and IWGP heavyweight champion at the same time in 1984 but that’s when the IWGP champion was really just about an annual tournament. Hogan won the first tournament in 1983 when he was the top star for the AWA. He then won the WWF title in January 1984. That was fine at first, and in some ways better, since AWA and Verne Gagne booked talent to All Japan including the AWA champion. Gagne had tried to get Hogan to move to All Japan but Hogan refused to make the move, and it was probably a good move since in All Japan he’d have to compete with both Bruiser Brody and Stan Hansen for the top foreigner position that he had in New Japan.

New Japan used to get its foreign talent from the WWF, and had for years based on a deal New Japan had made with Vince McMahon’s father. But then WWF pulled Hogan from some tours since they needed him in the U.S. since he was just an important part of their touring. One time they did a fake injury angle to get him out of the tag team tournament which obviously left some bad feelings.

He still went back to defend the title in 1985 against Antonio Inoki, who won the IWGP tournament (what is now essentially the G-1) in the summer. It was pretty clear Hogan was going to be done and they needed to get a win over him. As WWF champion, that was very difficult and the only finish they could agree to was for Riki Choshu to lariat both Hogan and Inoki on the floor, but Inoki would beat the 20 count and Hogan wouldn’t, so Inoki would win. That kind of a finish caused a riot. It became an annual defense until a few years later when it became a regular championship defended on major shows.

Since 1985, when the WWF and New Japan relations fell through, aside from the unique Hogan situation where he only signed a deal for the U.S. because of the power he had, there has been no interaction between the two companies. Jushin Liger did work a Takeover show, but like Hogan, he had a clause in his contract that gives him the right to work for anyone outside of Japan. But now, with the unique WWE U.K. contracts where the talent continues to work indies, the U.K. champion could work against New Japan champions. And negotiating finishes, which would have been very difficult in the past, isn’t an issue because WWE hasn’t made any kind of an issue that we know of about their talent doing jobs on U.K. shows.

Mark Andrews vs. Ospreay in a WWE vs. NJPW match has been added to the 1/20 Revolution Pro “High Stakes” show at York Hall. On paper that’s a killer of a match. The show is also headlined by an NJPW vs. WWE match where Trent Seven & Tyler Bate defend the British tag team titles against Minoru Suzuki & Zack Sabre Jr., plus IWGP tag champs Evil & Seiya Sanada vs. Mark Davis & Kyle Fletcher in a non-title match and Adam Brooks from Australia debuts against Ryan Smile. Tickets were close to being sold out at last report.

[Image: Chaos.png]

Reply
That first bit about Okada is why I love New Japan. They just GET IT. They know how to build things for the future long-term, they know how not to overexpose things, and how to make big moments meaningful.
[Image: jx9SHdi.png]

Reply
Kenny signing a 1 year deal means they’re gonna see how the US tour does before giving him a lock in. Maybe it’s just another year of Omega perfecting his craft and seeing what WWE does before deciding.
Reply
NJPW generally does 1 year deals for everybody. Omega has been re-signing every January for several years.
[Image: jx9SHdi.png]

Reply
Yeah. Also NJPW hot 100k this week.
[Image: Chaos.png]

Reply
Jericho's latest podcast has Omega on it and they talk all about the match. How it came about, things that happened in the match and their thoughts on it, etc. It's really good.
[Image: jx9SHdi.png]

Reply
Finished that about an hour ago. Best episode of TIJ that there has ever been. Omega is a wrestling revolutionary but he is obviously not an upfront politician. Maybe he is behind closed doors or he is smart enough to keep to himself.
[Image: 150723-EJ-aerial-madison-square-garden-1519-Edit.jpg]
2018
Reply
WWE officially tweeted 9hrs ago ttat War Machine has joined NXT
Reply
Old news dawg but still exciting news. The big story is Ricochet starting at the PC. The dude is retarded but his abilities are unreal.
[Image: 150723-EJ-aerial-madison-square-garden-1519-Edit.jpg]
2018
Reply
Yeah, War Machine, Ricochet, and Candice LeRae all announced today
[Image: jx9SHdi.png]

Reply
Watching the first day of FantasticaMania right now.

The 8-man tag with Los Ingobernobles guys was great. Naito beating the shit out of the commentator before, during, and after the match was hilarious. Star Jr. doing some corkscrew whateverthefuck outside the ring and splatting hard as shit on the ground. Dragon Lee and Hiromu reviving their feud with their insane chemistry together. Star Jr. getting his mask pretty much completely ripped off and holding it with his teeth the rest of the match to halfway cover his face. Just a fun match.
[Image: jx9SHdi.png]

Reply
Just in case anyone wants to see Suzuki beating the everloving shit out of Asuka:

https://v.redd.it/zp6oj18dl3c01
[Image: 150723-EJ-aerial-madison-square-garden-1519-Edit.jpg]
2018
Reply
So turns out the Hogan Bullet Club talk was actually legit, lol.

Quote:There were negotiations a few months back for Hogan to be part of The Bullet Club, as legit they have said the only outside guys they’d want in would be C.M. Punk or Hogan. The feeling was that Hogan wanted too much money and he’d bail on them the minute Vince called, and the feeling was that he was negotiating in the first place to get Vince to bring him back.

[Image: Chaos.png]

Reply
I mean, Hogan in BC would be newsworthy for sure, especially in Japan. But I have no interest in seeing it. Plus he would just try to make himself the star of it.
[Image: jx9SHdi.png]

Reply
I would rather see Ho-Gun.
[Image: 150723-EJ-aerial-madison-square-garden-1519-Edit.jpg]
2018
Reply
Hogan trying to get himself over Okada brother!

Win the Day!

[Image: vS1CaHG.png]

Reply
Hogan puts no one over. Not even in NJPW. He was the winner of the Grand Prix in 1983, the tournament now known as the G1 climax. In the entire round robin he put NO ONE over.
[Image: Chaos.png]

Reply
Him and Mil Mascaras should form a tag team of over the hill wrestlers who never job. No yob.
[Image: 3GJrzHf.jpg]
Reply
Just now watching New Beginning in Sapparo night 1. Random stream-of-consciousness thoughts. Obviously, spoilers below if you haven't watched:













- Michael Elgin vs. Katsuya Kitamura - Pretty good, power match. Elgin's a hoss and Kitamura is just....something. Just a walking steroid. But I think he might have a pretty decent future.
- Between Miho Abe and Tokyo Latina, I'm developing an Asian fetish I didn't know I had previously.
- Ishii and Yano are fun together but I really hope Ishii gets a real singles push this year.
- I don't like Taguchi
- Kota Ibushi landing on his feet out of that Doomsday Device dropkick from Cody was dope. Whole match was pretty fun actually, especially when it kicked into 10th gear near the end..
- lol @ Cody's promo with Kevin Kelly after the match
- Naito harassing Don Callis was fantastic. In fact, I love the story of how Naito has seemingly re-committed himself to being a heel. He had the biggest match of his life at Wrestle Kingdom and he realizes he lost because he got caught up in finally being accepted by the fans and playing to the crowd and it cost him.
- Will Ospreay is something else man...
- That nut-kick from Naito, goddamn!
- Okada just looks and carries himself like such a damn star. Best wrestler walking the planet today.
- Gedo curses a lot haha
- Oh snap, Okada getting pretty fuckin' heelish there. Double-turn in their match when it happens? Okada turns heel, SANADA goes full face? I wish I spoke Japanese so I could follow those promos.
- NEW INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPION!
- Suzuki vs. Tanahashi was great and the final few minutes were just gut-wrenching. Suzuki looked like he was going to rip Tanahashi's fucking leg off. Jesus. Going out on a stretcher.
- Really hope this leads to Tanahashi finally taking 6 months or so off and getting all the surgeries he needs and heal up.


Next up: Day 2!
[Image: jx9SHdi.png]

Reply
I have tomorrow off work and the kids will be in school. Plan on v watching them back to back tomorrow.

Win the Day!

[Image: vS1CaHG.png]

Reply
I have been on a drinking excursion with Ogre so I haven't had time to watch anything. Maybe Monday I will catch up and report back.
[Image: 150723-EJ-aerial-madison-square-garden-1519-Edit.jpg]
2018
[+] 2 users Like Chris's post
Reply
New Beginning in Sapporo Day 2





- Kitamura didn't look as good in this match. Slow and winded at times. Lots of power moves but Juice wrestled circles around him for the most part. But it wasn't bad. Kitamura's got potential but he's just too roided up to really go at a fast-paced level.
- Miho putting on the Tiger Mask and stomping Taguchi in the nuts was great. Him going to the English commentators after the match and saying "she broke my ass" had me dying
- Takahashi without Tokyo Latina = no buys
- Suzuki making Henare tap out with the leg lock in, like, 10 seconds is a little much considering Tanahashi, with an already injured knee, laid around in that move for like 5 minutes without tapping out last night.
- Cody talking shit to Kelly and Callis again was great yet again
- I love how cocky and dismissive Okada is when it comes to SANADA
- Roppongi 3K winning back the Jr. tag titles is a weird decision. Why even have them lose it last month in the first place then? Oh well. Awesome match
- Jay White didn't impress me at WK but he's kicking ass in this match
- OMFG that V-Trigger (you'll know it when you see it)
- That chair powerbomb! Fuck!
- "Red Shoes slow on the goddamn count!" Never change, Don Callis
- Oh shit, Jay White wins!? New US champion!
- Oh snap! It finally happened! Cody turns on Omega! Bullet Club crumbling!
- IBUSHI SAVES OMEGA! THE HUG!!!!

Holy fuck what a show. Two amazing NJPW shows. An amazing NXT show. Goddamn what a great weekend to be a wrestling fan.
[Image: jx9SHdi.png]

Reply
Code:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jaffUWsOx8&feature=

Hilarious spoiler. Copy and paste to see.
[Image: jx9SHdi.png]

Reply
Will this be on AXS?

Edit: yeah... in like a month
Reply
Just watched the main event.
Saw THAT V Trigger. Fuck I thought Switchblade was dead. His finisher is like a Sister Abigail. Why did Omega lose if they’re building him to be the US Face when they come here? Unless it’s to build Omega vs Cody, which I saw coming last year. Still don’t think Cody is that big of a draw and it’s all Kenny Omega. That damn cross roads was nasty.

I wonder if it is just Kenny leaving or if its The Elite and Marty Scrull.
[+] 1 user Likes DangPlex's post
Reply
If anyone is interested in going to NJPW in Long Beach, tickets go on sale in about an hour.

https://ev6.evenue.net/cgi-bin/ncommerce...mDesktop=1

[Image: 2018_NJPW_Seat_Map.jpg]
[Image: 150723-EJ-aerial-madison-square-garden-1519-Edit.jpg]
2018
[+] 1 user Likes Chris's post
Reply
This is turning into a bigger clusterfuck than the G1 Special Ticket ordeal.
[Image: 150723-EJ-aerial-madison-square-garden-1519-Edit.jpg]
2018
Reply


Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)