According to 2 different sites Paul Molitor never played here and while I might not be as passionate about other sports as I am the NFL, I'm pretty sure I would remember a player of his caliber being here. So that led me to believe there was another Molitor that played for us so I Wiki'd the Tigers rosters from Cecils tenure here (1990-96) and found no record of any Molitors being on the Tigers. The official word on that pic is it's unexplainable.

Detroit will not win their division

(01-26-2012 09:41 PM)Opitiplex Wrote:  Detroit will not win their division

Who is gonna challenge them?

An aging White Sox who just lost their best pitcher, closer and damn near the best manager in the team's history?
The Indians who only have a SS and a Catcher going for them?
Twins with one of the worst bullpens in baseball?
The Royals??

Detroit will not win their division.

I hope they do, I hope they win it all and I hope I'm wrong. I love me some Detroit sports(FUCK THE LIONS) but it won't happen

(01-25-2012 03:30 AM)Opitiplex Wrote:  This deal will put the Tigers back 10 years, I guarantee it

I completely agree. They got a young shitty defensive power bat who will be a fulltime DH within 5 years because of weight problems and/or how much of a defensive liability will be.

See also: Ortiz, David.

Prince Fielder IS NOT even close to worth that kind of money. I don't know all the specifics but I hope to fuck that Detroit has an out clause in that mother fucker. If not, it puts them back even longer. I can honestly play first base in the big leagues. I could, 100% be a better defensive player than Fielder and I havent played baseball in about 5 years.

Add Cabrera at 3rd who will be awful, Peralta at SS who is one of the worst fielding SS in the league and I don't care if they have Joe Morgan at 2nd, that infield will account for dozens upon dozens of errors and runs allowed in.

There is really nobody in the division who can compete with them and none of them have made any strong improvement throughout the off-season.

The Indians MAY present a problem early but everyone knows how that story goes.

You guys worry too much, we'll be fine

Seriously, I have no idea how this "sets us back". Dude is a 27 year old left handed power hitter. I don't worry too much about defense when you play first base as it's not that difficult (not that you guys don't know this). I envision Prince getting 2/3 of time at first base and 1/3 at DH. I envision Miggy getting 1/3 time at third base, 1/3 at first base at 1/3 at DH.

This is a nice problem to have as we already have the best starting pitcher in baseball, followed by a really good #2 (Fister), followed by decent #3 & #4s, (Porcello & Scherzer) followed by a potential young stud (Jacob Turner). We also sport a solid bullpen, headlined by a guy that went 52-52 in save opportunities (including playoffs). Did I mention the vast majority of these players are gonna be here for awhile?

Bottom line: I'd bet the farm that Fielder delivers but if he doesn't.....will eating the contract suck? Fuck yea it will!! But it won't keep us from fielding a competitive team, the Tigers have signed several shit contracts since 2006 and still remained relevant.

My question is this: With 65 million dollars tied up in three players (Fielder, Cabrera, Verlander) per year, how are they going to afford to keep guys like Fister, Porcello, Scherzer, and a bunch of their other key guys around?

Plus what are they going to do when Fielder finally does get a key injury? You know it's going to happen, it's inevitable. I just think it's a tough contract to try and get out from under... If this was a 4 year contract, I wouldn't be saying it's a bad deal. But for 9 years and a guy who can't field well and is already facing weight problems at 27, I just think it's a bad contract.

A) Fister is not a decent #2
B) Ilitch won't sign another big name
C) Fielder will be "average" in about 4 years max
D) I hope I'm wrong

Fair enough Phenom.

Opti- I'm not gonna sit here and claim I know a whole hell of a lot about Doug Fister but last year that dude was a bonafide stud, can he do it again? We'll see. As for Ilitch, if this team succeeds then he'll spend money, maybe not to the tune of $214 million but the man has shown when he believes he opens up that wallet. I could be wrong but I'm thinking everythings gravy, again, we shall see soon.

They will be fine for the next year or 2 but the Indians are safer in terms of better youth and development.

Twins are unfortunately in an apparent full on rebuild it feels like. Hopefully Morneau can shake off his concussion symptoms finally this year.

Watch out for dem Blue Jays. Plenty of kids to strike the fatfuk out. FOR REALS

(01-27-2012 07:10 PM)dunkzilla Wrote:  Watch out for dem Blue Jays. Plenty of kids to strike the fatfuk out. FOR REALS

I saw they signed Francisco Cordero

You poor Canadians are gonna be having a heart attack every 9th inning when he loads the bases.

(01-27-2012 07:22 PM)Obsidian Wrote:  

(01-27-2012 07:10 PM)dunkzilla Wrote:  Watch out for dem Blue Jays. Plenty of kids to strike the fatfuk out. FOR REALS

I saw they signed Francisco Cordero

You poor Canadians are gonna be having a heart attack every 9th inning when he loads the bases.

he isn't the closer.. set up man at best. Sergio Santos is the closer. Those guys HAVE to be better then the shit we had that came out of the bull pen. both of those guys have closing experience and minus Cordero's stint with the reds they has been solid.

Well then in the 8th inning or whatever

(01-27-2012 07:53 PM)Obsidian Wrote:  Well then in the 8th inning or whatever

point is we already had that and this is an improvement. We'll live... and win

In the AL East?

I don't think so. Those guys certainly don't put them ahead of NY, Boston and Tampa Bay. In any other division they'd have a better shot. Their only hope of ever contending is if they court Votto in 2 years.

Red Sox are on the decline.. they keep trying. The Jays can and will compete against the Rays. FUck the Yankees. I hope their plane goes down in a fuckin heap. but yeah the talent that is coming up and the play off expansion will help the blue birds to get back to the playoffs.

Red Sox are going backwards, fuck them.

Yankees win this division by over 15 games this year.

Rays have the best pitching staff in all of baseball, saying that, they won't hit 100 HR as a team this year

Jays are improving a little each year, keeping their young guys and adding key pieces here and there. I like what they're doing honestly

(01-27-2012 08:41 PM)Opitiplex Wrote:  Red Sox are going backwards, fuck them.

Yankees win this division by over 15 games this year.

Rays have the best pitching staff in all of baseball, saying that, they won't hit 100 HR as a team this year

Jays are improving a little each year, keeping their young guys and adding key pieces here and there. I like what they're doing honestly

yeah mang still pretty young and have some good guys still in the minors. Excited to see Romero pitch. Going to take my baby boy out for Opening Day. He should be 4 months. AHHH