Quote:CBS News reports that Joe Paterno, who was fired in a child molestation scandal last year after a triumphant career as the winningest coach in college football, has died at 85 of cancer -- but CNN said a Paterno spokesman said he had not died.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/2...7120120122

he isnt dead yet though.

RIP

Heh, jk. Rot in hell fag

What kind of fucking word is winningest?

its a real word, jd.

expand your vocabulary

and NFL network just scrolled it, so its probably legit.

He's dead. Crazy how fast it happened after the scandal broke.

Reports say his family didn't know if they should call and alert the media upon his death or if they should just keep it a secret for 20 years.

It's sad that he has to leave the world in the manner that he did and people who didn't watch college football will only see a part of him involved in a scandal rather than what he really was to the Penn State program.

Now he really has a good reason to keep quiet about all those kids getting fucked.

(01-22-2012 12:29 PM)Obsidian Wrote:  It's sad that he has to leave the world in the manner that he did and people who didn't watch college football will only see a part of him involved in a scandal rather than what he really was to the Penn State program.

I know what he did for Penn State and his players...but it's hard to overlook the scandal.

R.I.P you sick fuck

If Hell exists, he's burning in Dante's 9th circle.

(01-23-2012 03:06 PM)BoneCrusher Wrote:  R.I.P you sick fuck

lol. Nice change. haha

At least now he doesn't have to listen to all the naysayers. Oh wait, he could have just turned off his hearing aid...

(01-23-2012 03:38 PM)peachfuzz Wrote:  If Hell exists, he's burning in Dante's 9th circle.

not at all. god forgives your sins. heaven welcomes all as long as you ask for forgiveness. #religionisfunny.

At least you went that route instead of being a real dick about it and saying something like "but, fuzz... he couldn't be burning because Dante's 9th circle of Hell is frozen."

(01-23-2012 03:38 PM)peachfuzz Wrote:  If Hell exists, he's burning in Dante's 9th circle.

In all fairness, it wasn't like he was the one who actually molested children. He is criticized in the way he handled the situation but if you read the report he actually did report it to his superiors who were at that point responsible for also reporting it to the authorities. The report also stated that authorities were alerted of the matter and chose to do nothing about it. Could he have spoke up about it? Yes. Should he have? Yes. Again, nobody knows the complete details of what happened and why they happened. The only thing we can do is judge by our own morals and even then nobody knows the other side of the story and at this point maybe never will.

I still don't see why everyone is condemning the man like the whole situation is entirely his fault. Had Sandusky died then maybe I could see more negative statements but I don't think Joe Pa deserves all of the "Thank God he's dead" remarks which are pretty out of line but whatever. The man admitted publicly that he did not feel he handled the situation correctly and in 50+ years of his association with the University this is the ONLY negative thing that anyone had to say about him. No reported recruiting violations throughout his coaching tenure, graduated a large portion of his players, donated millions to the university including money from his wins to build better programs and facilities, had countless charities throughout the community include multiple ones that eventually led to the foundation of several large programs for handicapped children; etc.

Gotta love it that everyone has their dicks so far in the dirt about the scandal that they can be blinded by those things. Maybe it's just because I'm the kind of person that doesn't like to look at the negative aspects of someone, even my friends who are life-long fuck-ups in just about every way you can imagine but I guess that's what society has become. One big fuck-up and everyone holds it above everything right that you've ever done.

It isn't how big the fuck up is, per se, but rather the type of fuck up that it is. Sure, a person can fuck up a thousand times with petty crap, but when you're talking about child molestation, that is a whole different ballpark. The fact is that he knew about children being sexually abused for years and years, yet he didn't do everything he could to stop it. Yeah, he reported it to his higher ups, but why did he stop there?

The problem that I have with it is that everyone, regardless of their position, has a moral obligation to protect other people, especially those who cannot protect themselves, when their time comes to do so. You see a house on fire with people inside of it, you call the fire department. You see a person get hit by a car, you call the paramedics. And, if you know of children being molested by someone, you call the police. Inaction does not beget innocence. On the contrary, inaction makes you just as morally sour as the guilty party.

Sure, it might not have been his dick penetrating their asses, but he was definitely cupping Sandusky's balls, metaphorically. I will agree that it is sad his whole career, and everything his stood for, was washed away in the blink of an eye, but due to his abject refusal to put an end to children being raped right under his nose, all that he built was set up on a foundation of lies anyway.

I see what you're saying and morally I agree with you that he did not handle the situation accordingly (I think most people would). I was as ashamed as everyone else to hear the details of what happened.

Now that being said, the point I was just trying to make is that I still feel that his overall body of work is what should be specifically remembered about him. I'm not saying this excuses his poor judgement on handling the Sandusky situation but I think that there is a lot more to be recognized about Joe Paterno rather than people just writing him off as a terrible person because he didn't handle a specific situation the way that you or I would have and again nobody knows the specific details of what took place. The only thing that anyone can go on is the report released around late November that stated that when Paterno was informed of the situation he reported it to the Athletic Director as well as the President of the University and the Campus Police. I would probably be a little bit more harsh on him had he done nothing at all but that doesn't appear to be the case.

Personally, I hold all parties responsible rather than just Paterno as an individual and I'm glad that the University chose to discipline the others who were involved. I also feel that McQueary should have been fired along with them. Not sure why on earth they placed him on leave and banned him from the sidelines. If the most historic figure in the University's history lost his job, there is no reason why he should be an exception especially since he's the only one who can actually testify what happened.

(01-23-2012 03:44 PM)James Wrote:  

(01-23-2012 03:06 PM)BoneCrusher Wrote:  R.I.P you sick fuck

lol. Nice change. haha

no point in arguing, will would try to make his ideals sound right even when he's talking about a dude who hushed up child molestation.

Jim Norton on Twitter:

"Anyone offended by my Paterno jokes, please - just ignore me. You know, look the other way. Put on blinders. Pretend it's not happening."

(01-23-2012 07:11 PM)BoneCrusher Wrote:  

(01-23-2012 03:44 PM)James Wrote:  

(01-23-2012 03:06 PM)BoneCrusher Wrote:  R.I.P you sick fuck

lol. Nice change. haha

no point in arguing, will would try to make his ideals sound right even when he's talking about a dude who hushed up child molestation.

He didn't hush up on it but thanks for playing!

he's burning alright.

(01-23-2012 07:37 PM)BoneCrusher Wrote:  you dont call knowing about it for years and not saying anything keeping it hush? lolz

He reported it to the Athletic Director and President of the University. Keeping it on hush is not saying anything at all.

Will: "Better late than never!"

Paterno had to pay the troll toll to get in that boy's hole.

(01-22-2012 10:33 AM)User Name Wrote:  its a real word, jd.

expand your vocabulary

and NFL network just scrolled it, so its probably legit.

I know it's a real word... you'd just think they would... use a different word or something.
:-/

The way I feel about it, if he had gone over their heads instead of letting the school handle it the way they felt was appropriate, and brought National negative attention to the school, they probably would have fired him anyway.